diff --git a/files/classes/comment.py b/files/classes/comment.py
index 236534af4..8f872d29c 100644
--- a/files/classes/comment.py
+++ b/files/classes/comment.py
@@ -137,6 +137,7 @@ class Comment(Base):
 	slots_result = Column(String)
 	blackjack_result = Column(String)
 	casino_game_id = Column(Integer, ForeignKey("casino_games.id"))
+	chudded = Column(Boolean, default=False)
 
 	oauth_app = relationship("OauthApp")
 	post = relationship("Post", back_populates="comments")
diff --git a/files/classes/post.py b/files/classes/post.py
index 0e7ee5d64..708b9fc59 100644
--- a/files/classes/post.py
+++ b/files/classes/post.py
@@ -59,6 +59,7 @@ class Post(Base):
 	embed = Column(String)
 	new = Column(Boolean)
 	notify = Column(Boolean)
+	chudded = Column(Boolean, default=False)
 
 	author = relationship("User", primaryjoin="Post.author_id==User.id")
 	oauth_app = relationship("OauthApp")
diff --git a/files/helpers/sanitize.py b/files/helpers/sanitize.py
index b663f446a..11ff1d22a 100644
--- a/files/helpers/sanitize.py
+++ b/files/helpers/sanitize.py
@@ -729,6 +729,7 @@ def torture_object(obj, torture_method):
 
 def complies_with_chud(obj):
 	#check for cases where u should leave
+	if not obj.chudded: return True
 	if not (obj.author.chud or obj.author.queen): return True
 	if obj.author.marseyawarded: return True
 	if isinstance(obj, Post):
diff --git a/files/routes/comments.py b/files/routes/comments.py
index c3a0b181b..26d123107 100644
--- a/files/routes/comments.py
+++ b/files/routes/comments.py
@@ -264,6 +264,8 @@ def comment(v:User):
 
 	is_bot = v.client is not None and v.id not in PRIVILEGED_USER_BOTS
 
+	chudded = v.chud and not (posting_to_submission and post_target.sub == 'chudrama')
+
 	c = Comment(author_id=v.id,
 				parent_submission=post_target.id if posting_to_submission else None,
 				wall_user_id=post_target.id if not posting_to_submission else None,
@@ -275,6 +277,7 @@ def comment(v:User):
 				body_html=body_html,
 				body=body,
 				ghost=ghost,
+				chudded=chudded,
 				)
 
 	c.upvotes = 1
diff --git a/files/routes/posts.py b/files/routes/posts.py
index 28afb5321..b374c178b 100644
--- a/files/routes/posts.py
+++ b/files/routes/posts.py
@@ -596,6 +596,8 @@ def submit_post(v:User, sub=None):
 
 	if url == '': url = None
 
+	flag_chudded = v.chud and sub != 'chudrama'
+
 	p = Post(
 		private=flag_private,
 		notify=flag_notify,
@@ -611,7 +613,8 @@ def submit_post(v:User, sub=None):
 		title=title,
 		title_html=title_html,
 		sub=sub,
-		ghost=flag_ghost
+		ghost=flag_ghost,
+		chudded=flag_chudded,
 	)
 
 	g.db.add(p)
diff --git a/files/templates/comments.html b/files/templates/comments.html
index 70ac3d40f..7dbbd858c 100644
--- a/files/templates/comments.html
+++ b/files/templates/comments.html
@@ -242,7 +242,7 @@
 			{% endif %}
 
 			{% set realbody = c.realbody(v) %}
-			<div id="comment-text-{{c.id}}" class="comment-text mb-0 {% if c.author.chud and not (c.parent_submission and c.post.sub == 'chudrama') %}text-uppercase chud-img chud-{{c.id_last_num}}{% endif %} {% if c.author.rainbow %}rainbow-text{% endif %} {%if c.author.queen%}queen{%endif%}">
+			<div id="comment-text-{{c.id}}" class="comment-text mb-0 {% if c.chudded %}text-uppercase chud-img chud-{{c.id_last_num}}{% endif %} {% if c.author.rainbow %}rainbow-text{% endif %} {%if c.author.queen%}queen{%endif%}">
 				{{realbody | safe}}
 			</div>
 			{% if c.parent_submission or c.wall_user_id %}
diff --git a/files/templates/post.html b/files/templates/post.html
index 0e136c6be..9728494ca 100644
--- a/files/templates/post.html
+++ b/files/templates/post.html
@@ -80,14 +80,14 @@
 					{{macros.flags(p, 'post')}}
 
 					{% if p.realurl(v) and not v_forbid_deleted %}
-						<h1 id="post-title" class="card-title post-title text-left mb-md-3 {% if p.author.chud and p.sub != 'chudrama' %}text-uppercase{% endif %}">
+						<h1 id="post-title" class="card-title post-title text-left mb-md-3 {% if p.chudded %}text-uppercase{% endif %}">
 								<a {% if p.author.rainbow %}class="rainbow-text"{% endif %} {%if p.author.queen%}queen{%endif%} {% if not v or v.newtabexternal %}target="_blank"{% endif %} rel="nofollow noopener" href="{{p.realurl(v)}}">
 								{% if p.flair %}<span class="patron font-weight-bolder mr-1" style="background-color:var(--primary); font-size:12px; line-height:2;">{{p.flair | safe}}</span>{% endif %}
 								{{p.realtitle(v) | safe}}
 							</a>
 						</h1>
 					{% else %}
-						<h1 id="post-title" class="card-title post-title text-left mb-md-3 {% if p.author.chud and p.sub != 'chudrama' %}text-uppercase{% endif %} {% if p.author.rainbow %}rainbow-text{% endif %} {%if p.author.queen%}queen{%endif%}">
+						<h1 id="post-title" class="card-title post-title text-left mb-md-3 {% if p.chudded %}text-uppercase{% endif %} {% if p.author.rainbow %}rainbow-text{% endif %} {%if p.author.queen%}queen{%endif%}">
 							{% if p.flair %}<span class="patron font-weight-bolder mr-1" style="background-color:var(--primary); font-size:12px; line-height:2;">{{p.flair | safe}}</span>{% endif %}
 							{{p.realtitle(v) | safe}}
 						</h1>
@@ -117,7 +117,7 @@
 						{% endif %}
 
 
-						<div id="post-text" class="{% if p.author.chud and p.sub != 'chudrama' %}text-uppercase chud-img chud-{{p.id_last_num}}{% endif %} {% if p.author.rainbow %}rainbow-text{% endif %} {%if p.author.queen%}queen{%endif%}">
+						<div id="post-text" class="{% if p.chudded %}text-uppercase chud-img chud-{{p.id_last_num}}{% endif %} {% if p.author.rainbow %}rainbow-text{% endif %} {%if p.author.queen%}queen{%endif%}">
 							{% if p.is_image %}
 								<div class="row no-gutters mb-4">
 									<div class="col">
diff --git a/files/templates/post_listing.html b/files/templates/post_listing.html
index 5f02cdf90..c6583d6d2 100644
--- a/files/templates/post_listing.html
+++ b/files/templates/post_listing.html
@@ -96,7 +96,7 @@
 				{{ macros.post_meta(p) }}
 			</div>
 			<h5 class="card-title post-title text-left w-lg-95 pb-0 pb-md-1">
-				<a id="{{p.id}}-title" {% if v and v.newtab %}data-target="t" target="_blank"{% endif %} href="{{p.permalink}}" class="{% if p.sub %}sub{% endif %} stretched-link {% if p.author.chud and p.sub != 'chudrama' %}text-uppercase{% endif %}">
+				<a id="{{p.id}}-title" {% if v and v.newtab %}data-target="t" target="_blank"{% endif %} href="{{p.permalink}}" class="{% if p.sub %}sub{% endif %} stretched-link {% if p.chudded %}text-uppercase{% endif %}">
 				{% if p.flair %}<span class="patron font-weight-bolder mr-1" style="background-color:var(--primary); font-size:12px; line-height:2;">{{p.flair | safe}}</span>{% endif %}
 				{{p.realtitle(v) | safe}}
 			</a></h5>
@@ -208,7 +208,7 @@
 
 {% if not v_forbid_deleted %}
 	{% if p.realbody(v, listing=True) %}
-		<div class="d-none card rounded border {% if p.author.chud and p.sub != 'chudrama' %}text-uppercase chud-img chud-{{p.id_last_num}}{% endif %} {% if p.author.rainbow %}rainbow-text{% endif %} {%if p.author.queen%}queen{%endif%} post-preview" id="post-text-{{p.id}}">
+		<div class="d-none card rounded border {% if p.chudded %}text-uppercase chud-img chud-{{p.id_last_num}}{% endif %} {% if p.author.rainbow %}rainbow-text{% endif %} {%if p.author.queen%}queen{%endif%} post-preview" id="post-text-{{p.id}}">
 			{{p.realbody(v, listing=True) | safe}}
 		</div>
 	{% endif %}
diff --git a/migrations/20230623-make-chud-not-retroactive.sql b/migrations/20230623-make-chud-not-retroactive.sql
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..40f5f7b57
--- /dev/null
+++ b/migrations/20230623-make-chud-not-retroactive.sql
@@ -0,0 +1,5 @@
+alter table posts add column chudded bool default false;
+alter table comments add column chudded bool default false;
+
+alter table posts alter column chudded drop default;
+alter table comments alter column chudded drop default;